The US government relies on a network of computers to generate payments out of thin air, including some transactions that remain entirely undocumented, according to Elon Musk.
In a new interview on Senator Ted Cruz’s Verdict podcast, Musk says the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has now discovered about 14 “magic money” computers.
[adinserter block="1"]Musk tells Cruz that these computers are responsible for sending trillions of dollars in payments.
“I call a magic money computer any computer that can make money out of thin air. It just issues payments… They just send money out of nothing.”
Musk says about 5-10% of the payments executed by these computers are not reported.
“You may think that the government computers all talk to each other. They synchronize. They add up what funds are going somewhere and it’s coherent, and that the numbers that you’re presented as a Senator are actually the real numbers. One would think. They’re not.”
Musk says DOGE has discovered these computers at the Treasury Department, State Department, Health and Human Services Department and the Defense Department.
According to Musk, the government’s systems make it tough to reconcile payments and tackle waste and fraud.
“If you want to know what what the situation is with the accounting and you’re trying to reconcile accounting and get rid of waste and fraud, you must be able to analyze the computer databases. Otherwise you can’t figure it out.
Because what you’re doing is asking a human – who will then ask another human – and finally usually ask some contractor – who will ask another contractor – to do a query on the computer.
So it’s many layers deep. The only way to reconcile the databases and get rid of waste and fraud is to to actually look at the computers and see what’s going on.
When I sort of cryptically refer to reprogramming The Matrix, you have to understand what’s going at the computers. You have to reconcile the computer databases in order to identify the waste and fraud.”
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